Re: Rule Suggestions
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 12:47
Maybe add another zip tie to indicate bb weight for that gun?
The Airsoft forum of Berget-events
https://www.berget-events.com/forum/
https://www.berget-events.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=193&t=8777
I had no idea they used .25 for chroning last year. Must be why all our guns had lower muzzle velocities than expected. Some of them might even have been over their limits, without any of us (or the chrono crew) ever knowing.Satela wrote:Last year the chroning was a total f*ck up. The BBs used in chroning were 0,25 but just 1 out of the 3 crewmembers understood how to actually use the chrono and how to compare the results to the velocitylimits given for 0,2 BBs. The other 2 crewmembers didn't have a clue of what they were doing.
L4gi wrote:But its not the same.
Gun A) Shoots 130m/s with 0.2g Berget BB. Player uses BB .30, but since his gun uses all the air properly in the system, or has a really long barrel or something, his gun shoots 2 joules(just as an example, not actual scientific numbers). Guy knows how to "tech" past the rules, as people do a lot.
Gun B) Shoots 130m/s with 0.2g Berget BB. Player uses BB .30, but since his gun doesnt use the air as efficiently as Gun A, his gat only comes in at 1.6 joules with .30.
This is how you get the problems with people shooting with "hot guns". They technically arent, but in reality one gun can have a much higher impact energy than the other. Wouldnt it be safer to chrono everything in joules then, so that everyone(atleast most people who play fair) are on the same page, and you can clearly see when someone breaks the MED for example.
This is the INCORRECT way to chrono. Ville explained why below. Last year BE chrono with 0.2g BB stated that my gun shot only 117m/s (1.4J @ 0.2g BB) and safety distance accordingly. My actual chrono result with 0.3g BB that I am using is 113m/s (1.95J @ 0.3g BB) --> This basically translates to 139m/s with 0.2g BB.Hazardous wrote: That's exactly the point why all chrono with .20 BB's
Otherwise we would have a list that would look something like:
Class 3 @ .20 .......... 129m/s (1.6J)
Class 3 @ .25 .......... 111m/s (1.6J)
Class 3 @ .28 .......... 103m/s (1.6J)
(these numbers are just shot from my hip, not actual measurements)
The point is that it doesn't matter what weight you use, restrictions are the same never the less
According to this rule all sniper rifles are required to have a scope. Does it include all bolt action rifles with no exceptions?SNIPER RIFLES
If you want to play as a sniper your gun must look like a sniper rifle with scope, no mp5/uzi/m4/ak47 etc with scope is allowed as sniper.
Considering the fact that you will be playing as Mechanized, i dont see why not. But you are best of getting 100% correct answer by emailing to info@berget-events.comAskorbiini wrote:This is not as much a suggestion as it is a question, but:
According to this rule all sniper rifles are required to have a scope. Does it include all bolt action rifles with no exceptions?SNIPER RIFLES
If you want to play as a sniper your gun must look like a sniper rifle with scope, no mp5/uzi/m4/ak47 etc with scope is allowed as sniper.
I'm thinking about building a secondary (backup) rifle for myself, which would be equipped with iron sights and no scope, just in case if something happens to my primary sniper rifle or the scope mounted on it.
Did you ever perform chrono-testing at an event?seaQ wrote:This is not very hard and is performed on plenty of games in Sweden. The guys doin the chronoing doesn't even need to know much about it. All they have to do is ask what bullet weight the guy uses, shoot the gun through the chrono and look at this table:
https://sjoqvist.org/bergetchrono
I have performed several chrono-tests, so yes, I know what i am talking about. And yes I know there are alot of tricks to be dealt with. HOWEVER, it's really simple, thoose who would like to cheat, will cheat. You can't stop that in any way on a airsoft game.Fly wrote:Did you ever perform chrono-testing at an event?
Your remark is flawed, because you think all players are truthfull?
I am a marshall and perform monthly fps-checks.
We get the craziest things, from hop up so turned on that the bb is stuck to testing with much heavier bb's then the 0.20 that should be used.