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Radio communication

Post by togo » 21 Feb 2007, 12:28

Seems like a good idea to me to coordinate radio communication, so the question asked is: what kind/frequencies of radio you have or you are used to?
PMR?FRS?
Short-Wave Radio rent on-site?

please post and comment...

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Post by LoomChild » 21 Feb 2007, 13:52

There are some guidelines regarding frequencies on the site (or on the forum, can't remember exactly). More info till presumably come (like what side has what exact frequencies), but perhaps as late as when you're there, as a precaution to "I know that the allied has --- SPAM !!! ----YYY MHz".

What I am still waiting for though is info about what radios it is we will rent from the B5 crew, as I might want to get a pouch for it (or I'll just toss a couple of magazines ;)

What I'd realy like to see though would be a "radio guide". I'm sure we'll see some HAM-people, some semi-HAM's (like me, read the course, didn't take the test/licence) and some newbies. So a possability to memorize callname standards ("Papa Bear = HQ", "Alpha Charlie = your group"), procedures of calls ("Papa Bear, Papa Bear. Alpha Charlie calling Papa Bear" instead of "Yo, Papa Bear, this is 'ay see'. Yo, talk to me damnit!") and such things would be good asap. basically because I know how horrible bad radio discipline can totaly ruin a whole channel.

Within squads there will be less restrictions though (I guess). Seems that as long as you keep to a few accepted bands you're free to use it as much as you like (or dare...as I myself want to get a hold of a scanner :wink: ).

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Post by Raphael » 26 Feb 2007, 14:58

What I am still waiting for though is info about what radios it is we will rent from the B5 crew
that would be nice to know for me, too.

My team is in a mercenary role but is counting the the major part of the command unit. If is it okay for you guy´s, we would take care on radio discipline and radio speech on our side.
I would also like to get in touch with the others command unit players as soon as possible. Please contact me via PM, thanks.

In my opinion, we need up to three long range radios within the command unit and one long range radio operator in each major combat group.
Within the combat groups and squads PMR will be good to use.

greetings from Germany
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Post by Eldoriath » 09 Mar 2007, 21:09

On the subject of radio communication i agree that bad discipline can ruin stuff.
I have a minor education from my conscript service, was a medic there and we used the radio frequently (will also play medic on B5).

Anyways, i can imagine that it exists some slight differences between from what i learned on swedish compared to the english way.

So, what im after is this:
A short "course" on proper radio communication.
Ie:
Alpha Bravo (HQ) Alpha Charlie (Me)

Me: Alpha Bravo, Alpha bravo
HQ: Alpha bravo here, over
Me: Alpha charlie here, requesting information on other units operating in aproximity of my position, K9 (pre-decided point on the map), over.
HQ: Alpha Hotel is acting around that area as well, over.
Me: Affirmative, over and out.

I know that in swedish we say the counter-part of 'out' when we have nothing more to say, but haven't ended the traffic yet. Using that the two last sentences would be like this:

HQ: Alpha Hotel is acting around that area as well, out.
Me: Affirmative, over and out.

But that just doesn't feel right, so i want to know what you say in english. Not that i expect to be handling the radio, but you never know if you end up in a group that has no radio communcation experience, or the radio-op is "killed".

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Post by Raphael » 10 Mar 2007, 08:58

That´s very nice, Sir ! Thank´s for your work.

but remember, we´re in military operations.
That´s means, the "enemy" may use simple radio scanners to listen to our freq´s (i would use that too 8) ) or is using the same PMR´s like we do.

So we should use codewords instead of given "clear" information over the radio.


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Post by Berggren » 10 Mar 2007, 10:36

Dont use scanners...

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Post by 1stPunisher » 16 Mar 2007, 16:54

I agree with Raphael. it is realy important, that people who use radio´s are skilled in that. That means no clear information over the radio. everytime you use callsigns. all members of a platoon know these call signs and each patrol out there is instructed about the operation of friendly troops.

so be honest with yourself to now how this works. if not don´t even think about it.

structure should be that every platoon had one radio-operator who is in touch with HQ. for this you need a long range radio. aswell you use your PMR´s or what ever to communicate with each other inside platoon.

and why not use a scanner? that is normal during military operations and I´ll bet that nato units will use this aswell. we need every instrument to accomplish the mission.

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Post by LoomChild » 17 Mar 2007, 00:24

About scanners. "Signal intelligence and jamming may occur..." is on the info-page. And it would be stupid NOT to use scanners realy. Ok, I could accept a case of "don't scan these freq's because we simulate that they are encrypted", because I guess that high powered encrypted frequency skipping radios aren't realy cheap. ;)

So I must only agree with 1stPunisher. COUNT ON the fact that the enemy hears you. Never say "right, we're in the church tower, enemy general's not here yet", I'm sure that "we've in a sniping possition at marker Delta Whisky. Football is not pressent" would work a lot better.

That is, if the enemy don't do what I would do if I could get the equipment...triangulate. *grins* But that's a tad OT so I'll leave it at that.

There are a few things I feel (without having military training) is at hand to say here. First, be informative but use as little clear text as possible. Transmit in short time intervals (preferably one short message saying anything you need to know). The first is obvious, the second is for, as you've guessed, triangulation purposes, as even an ordinary handheld can be used to get a direction with some accuracy (those who's been out "foxhunting" knows what I meen), and if they realy have some good stuff with them...arty's comming in five!

*yawns* Ok, food and bed, and here's my 0.02 nuyen. ;)

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Post by 1stPunisher » 17 Mar 2007, 14:03

@loomchild

you´re correct. the experience I got is 4 years working for the US Army and trainings with some Special Forces Teams in the US. so what I´d learned is to make a callsign tab that each radiooperator holds out in the field.
but that depends on good work from HQ, a good briefing OpOrders and so on. if ground works done perfectly, anything else is as easy as it gets.
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Post by Tiger_1 » 03 Apr 2007, 17:51

Will there be a comms plan worked out soon? I am guessing that setting up the coms plan for something like this is not easy, as we dont really have a lot of net's, and a lot of units on them. But a good thing would be what we can expect as company and platoon level coms. If you need any help on the setting up a coms plan, let me know, I have been a coms officer for 8 years. But I guess most of this work must be done by Berget crew, to divide the nets they have between the diffrent sides.

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Post by 1stPunisher » 04 Apr 2007, 16:50

yepp your right,

as long as we ain´t know what kind of equipment each unit will receive it is nosense to talk about it. Aswell we ain´t know what kind of equipment each group will bring along with them.

but it´s good to know that there is a nother specialist for that task buddy
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Post by Finarvas » 04 Apr 2007, 21:21

My guess is that PMR and similar free bands will be "free for all" and a general mess as usual in these kinds of large games =)

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Post by Berget-events » 11 Apr 2007, 22:06

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Post by biberfinder » 13 May 2007, 18:56

As Eldoriath has mentioned using radio requires som kind of phonetic alphabet. I wonder which one we will use.
There is a bunch of them but I would prefer NATO's militay alphabet code, this since main comms are to be done in english.
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Post by Vader [WG-A.I.M.] » 13 May 2007, 20:47

biberfinder wrote: There is a bunch of them but I would prefer NATO's militay alphabet code, this since main comms are to be done in english.
Tell me more about it please.

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