The definition of a ghillie

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The definition of a ghillie

Post by MiqaFox » 18 Jan 2015, 12:43

Before I start, I found this to be the best place to post, since the question might come up again in the future. Think I'd be best preserved in this sub-forum, feel free to move it if you disagree.

So, my regular role on the airsoftfield is that of the sniper, and I usually use a ghille. The two previous Berget's I've been to, the unit I joined forbid the use of sniperrifles, so I adapted. This year I am allowed to use one and intend to do so, however, I am not allowed to use a ghille(which I normally would). Naturally I'm trying to stretch the rules as much as I can to my benefit, without breaking them of course. So, the rules state that I'm not allowed to use one, but it does not state a definition of what it is. The question is, how do you define a ghilliesuit?

To make it a bit easier I'll break it down a bit.
Headpiece - a boonie, cap, helmet or hood, possibly with a veil.
Shoulders - shoulderline, possibly arms as well
Torso - yeah, upper body
Legs - pants(or kilt if that's what you prefer)
Veg - vegetation found in nature, grass, brances etc.
Jute/burlap - the most common basematerial used for a ghillie

My own thoughts are like this. A helmet with prepared with fabric strips and/or jute I would not call a ghille, rather something you might find with the common soldier. Example: the Britts
http://s602.photobucket.com/user/vor033 ... 8.jpg.html

Going along that line, equally any other headpiece should be allowed, whether it's prepared with fabric, jute or veg.

Further down on the body I'm thinking like this, if you have prepared torso or legs with jute that is definitely a ghillie. The question then boils down to: Am I allowed to attach veg on my body as is or for example use an Web-Tex concealment vest(or equivalent) without jute? Link for those who do not know what it is: http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/web-tex-co ... duct,10910

Other thing, is a Leshy suit a ghillie? Is a leaf-suit for hunters a ghillie?

Fill up with more examples if you have. Give me your opinions, so that we can come to some kind of conclusion. Preferably BE will respond with a definite answer.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by vinni » 18 Jan 2015, 13:14

If you have been forbidden to use ghillie suits, I wouldn't go further than head and shoulders (which is already stretching it imho)
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by MiqaFox » 18 Jan 2015, 13:36

Thanks for the input, I'll throw in shoulders along with the other options.
Personally I think covering the shoulders might actually be crossing the line. But that is why I want the input.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Rythm » 23 Jan 2015, 12:34

Stick to the head is my opinion. That goes along what almsot every army in this climate zone uses regulary. Hiding the shape of the shoulders is not a standard procedure, and i would personally see this as breaking the intention of the rule.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Sgt._Shaw » 23 Jan 2015, 18:51

Rythm wrote:Stick to the head is my opinion. That goes along what almsot every army in this climate zone uses regulary. Hiding the shape of the shoulders is not a standard procedure, and i would personally see this as breaking the intention of the rule.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by fractured » 24 Oct 2015, 13:53

Sorry to necro, but this seems like the best place to ask.

I have a sniper rifle that I really like using, often with a ghillie, but the team we intend to join doesnt allow ghillie, so my question is, can the rifle still be in full ghillie, as long as I am not?
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by L4gi » 24 Oct 2015, 17:42

Judging by previous experiences I'd say yes. Seen it happen at many Bergets.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Panzergraf » 24 Oct 2015, 17:44

If it's just on your rifle it's not really a ghillie suit, just a rifle accessory.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by sitfog » 01 Nov 2015, 14:49

Would a leafsuit jacket count as a ghillie suit?
I'm considering sniper role for berget 14, but my side is prohibited from wearing ghillies.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Arradin » 01 Nov 2015, 15:12

sitfog wrote:Would a leafsuit jacket count as a ghillie suit?
I'm considering sniper role for berget 14, but my side is prohibited from wearing ghillies.
You can be a sniper without a ghillie. :)
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by MiqaFox » 01 Nov 2015, 16:09

IMO a leaf suit is not a ghillie. The benefit of wearing one is moderate. Often you get the outline slightly broken up, at a trade for worse colors, usually brown instead of the more preferred green.

However, one can question whether it is compatible with the camo rules. It has been said in the past that the people wearing an actual ghillie, despite it possibly covering a lot of the body, still need to wear the right camo. With a leaf suit possibly none of the camo is seen except for the suit itself.

Still think it would be nice with some input from BE on all of this topic.
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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Spitfire » 04 Mar 2016, 13:25

Hei there

Could we get a statement from the Berget Crew on the definition of a Ghillie?

What we call a Ghillie-Suit here is: Whole body-Suit, rear covered with camo-things like burlap, branches, leafs, grass
Ghillie-Suit applies also for Trousers and Jacket with the same apearance.

We have something like a Hooded T-Shirt with burlap, leafs and so on, this is calles a sniper-wrap

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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Seventh » 05 Mar 2016, 15:02

Do a natural yeti-suit? Use natural vegetation for a cloak/coat. I know it's a bother to swap old, brown veggies out every second hour or so! -BUT- it works and it works damn well. That or a huge camo net in a non-plastic material to break your outline.

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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Gloom » 07 Apr 2016, 20:41

I would like to use this as infantry with bolt sniper:

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/tactical-ve ... aign-id=21

It's multicam.

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Re: The definition of a ghillie

Post by Spitfire » 09 May 2016, 10:46

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