Red Army "motivation" unit?

Robban87 · Post by **Robban87** » 21 Nov 2006, 15:10

Yeah but not a regulary Militarypolice. http://home.mweb.co.za/re/redcap/pact-mp.htm

xxxFENCExxx · Post by **xxxFENCExxx** » 22 Nov 2006, 08:40

Name is no important - for me this unit can be called even "Balalaika comando" with dancing bear

and canister of beer (without alcohol- ofcourse )

VAI = traffic control unit

Puma · Post by **Puma** » 30 Nov 2006, 04:01

He is talking about a "political officer", or a "morale officer". Someone to make sure people don't just come and go as they please. Someone to keep the spirits up and someone to fear at the same time.

The demanding task of the morale officer would be to counter the "--- SPAM !!! --- you, it's only a game, I'm going to sleep now" -phenomena, that overtakes the not so hadcore players when they are either wet, tired, hungy, sleepy or cold.

Also a task for the morale officer would be to distribute propaganda. To make sure everybody was thinking that the war effort is going well, and that their side was deffinetly winning. And that all those friendly casualties coming from the front line, are just a minor setback on the way to a final and ultimate victory.

So say we all!

xxxFENCExxx · Post by **xxxFENCExxx** » 30 Nov 2006, 23:54

Yes,yes yes.

gandi · Post by **gandi** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:53

So say we all!!

Post by **Berget-events** » 01 Dec 2006, 11:54

I think that a "NKVD" political officer squad is a really good idea! Well look into this and if we find this good well apply for a "NKVD" officer on the homepage!

xxxFENCExxx · Post by **xxxFENCExxx** » 01 Dec 2006, 13:17

It is possible get one free ticket for "dancing bear"?

Wildcat · Post by **Wildcat** » 04 Jan 2007, 00:58

whiskey wrote:have a look at the movie "Enemy at the gates". NKVD were the guys with machine guns behind the attacking Red Army troops. Yes, yes, the ones who shot those who were retreating after an unsuccessful attack.

It is standard propagandistic stamp.
NKVD units were as US National guards and solved same tasks it real, because haven’t heavy weapons at staff. But they had high morale and often used as last reserve - placed at last defense line in key points, where were stop retreating soldiers, complete new composite battalions for resistance to enemy advanced troops.

Spof wrote:I think that a "NKVD" political officer squad is a really good idea! Well look into this and if we find this good well apply for a "NKVD" officer on the homepage!

The name "NKVD" is good for WW2, but not for "Berget 5" time.

Vader [WG-A.I.M.] · Post by **Vader [WG-A.I.M.]** » 04 Jan 2007, 11:27

Wildcat wrote: The name "NKVD" is good for WW2, but not for "Berget 5" time.

I completely agree. Respect, comrade.
What kind of task this police will does?

OFF: "Enemy at the Gates" is a bullshit. It's a pull of dirt, lies and mistakes, without respect to russians who were fight there.

xxxFENCExxx · Post by **xxxFENCExxx** » 04 Jan 2007, 16:58

Why "Police"?
It could be "Balalyka Team"

OFF. My Grandfather was in the Red Army and so called Polish People Army during the 2nd WW. He used to recollect much more interesting stories than these 'movie lies and mistakes'.

NKVD similar to US National guards?

Wildcat · Post by **Wildcat** » 04 Jan 2007, 22:07

xxxFENCExxx wrote:NKVD similar to US National guards?

OFF:
NKVD - People's Commissariat of Home Affairs, because NKVD units has same tasks.
But this Commissariat has FBI & CIA function too.

Giersu · Post by **Giersu** » 04 Jan 2007, 23:55

The name was a typical example of soviet double-dealing. "Home Affairs" these days meant "killing everyone who's not thinking the right way" and the only "right way" was following the word of Stalin (sometimes even that wasn't enough to keep you alive). It's a commonly known story about a little boy, who was pissing on snow. He wrote "Stalin" with his piss. His parents were arrested for that and never seen again. NKVD was the force that arrested them.
It was also NKVD to arrest several THOUSANDS of Polish officers after the REd Army invaded Poland on 17.09.1939, shortly after the nazis. Most of these officers were shot.

Most of the civilized world aknowledges NKVD as a crime and genocidal organization, just like nazi German SA and SS. The only problem is that nowadays all these crimes are more and more often being explained and forgiven/forgotten.

Wildcat · Post by **Wildcat** » 05 Jan 2007, 01:53

OFF:

Giersu wrote:The name was a typical example of soviet double-dealing. "Home Affairs" these days meant "killing everyone who's not thinking the right way" and the only "right way" was following the word of Stalin (sometimes even that wasn't enough to keep you alive).

A la guerre com a la guerre!
Even if it is civil war. You can see that at Great French revolution and others...

Giersu wrote:It's a commonly known story about a little boy, who was pissing on snow. He wrote "Stalin" with his piss. His parents were arrested for that and never seen again. NKVD was the force that arrested them.

I don't know. Write me, please, number of it case.

Giersu wrote: It was also NKVD to arrest several THOUSANDS of Polish officers after the REd Army invaded Poland on 17.09.1939, shortly after the nazis. Most of these officers were shot.

Life for life.

Polish government criminally kill in concentration camps by starves death the 90.000 POW of Red Army after Polish aggression at 1919-1921. It was same Nazi genocide.

Giersu wrote:The only problem is that nowadays all these crimes are more and more often being explained and forgiven/forgotten.

You right.

P.S. Let’s think about joint game, but not about old political discrepancy.

Brujo · Post by **Brujo** » 05 Jan 2007, 09:04

I suggest that admin deletes all this discussion about NKVD and injustice. It has nothing to do with airsoft nor B5 scenario...

Wildcat and Giersu, please stop.

Crapgame · Post by **Crapgame** » 05 Jan 2007, 10:38

i agree with brujo, a political discussion about whats wrong or right odes not bellong here. this is a forum to gather information for a big game